Squape Reloaded Rebuildable Atomizer

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Squape Reloaded Rebuildable Atomizer

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Uite ca a aparut si Squape II, Squape Reloaded. Pare destul de interesant.
O recenzie aici (de Robert Ellis, unul din preferatii mei):

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A aparut (clona) doar pe focalecig.com, la pretul de $28.79.
Cred ca acest atomizor merita un topic a lui unde sa discutam despre el.
Probabil il voi lua, as fi curios daca il are cineva.
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L-am comandat de pe focalecig.com acuma.
Ramane sa vina si voi face o scurta recenzie despre el atunci.
Nu am reusit sa identific pe alibaba care este clona vanduta de focalecig, de ce producator este facuta, oricum sunt foarte multe, zeci.
Ce ma ingrijoreaza este poza de mai jos, unde se vede o garnitura la mustiuc. Ori nu e bagat bine, ori au gresit cotele... sper sa fie prima varianta. Cu chinezoii te poti astepta la orice.

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Stiu ca tu esti impotriva utilizarii alamei sau cuprului in atomizoare. Esti OK cu aluminiu? Ca squape asta are inauntru. Aluminiu anodizat.
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c_baias scrie:Stiu ca tu esti impotriva utilizarii alamei sau cuprului in atomizoare. Esti OK cu aluminiu? Ca squape asta are inauntru. Aluminiu anodizat.
Da, asta a fost una din dileme. Si motivul pentru care ma indoiesc ca am facut bine cumparandu-l. As fi preferat inox.
Originalul sunt sigur sa zicem ca ar fi cat decat sigur aluminiul prin anodizare, dar la clona, cine stie de aliaje or mai fi bagat chinezii...
Tu ce zici de prezenta aluminiului chiar anodizat inauntru atomizorului?

Cam asta ar fi pe scurt definita anodizari:
Anodizarea este tratamentul suprafetei aluminiului prin acoperirea acestuia cu un strat oxid de aluminiu (AI203) printr-un proces electrolitic care consta in producerea unui flux de curent continuu printr-un electrolit pe baza de acid.

Prin acest proces se creste in mod artificial pana la o mie de ori grosimea stratului natural de oxid de aluminiu, astfel obtinandu-se o bună protecție împotriva coroziunii si abraziunii. Caracteristicile proprii acestui material in ceea ce priveste rezistenta si durabilitatea, cresc considerabil datorita acestui tratament de suprafata, devenind astfel materialul ideal pentru inchideri in zonele de coasta supuse conditiilor meteorologice aspre.
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Alzaheimer e prieten bun cu aluminiul. Nu stiu cat de rezistent e stratul anodizat (apple au toate produsele din aluminiu anodizat, iar suprafetele sunt rezistente la uzura). Din cate am citit, anodizarea la original s-ar face cu titan la catod.
Dilema e acum daca chinezul face anodizare simpla (aluminiu la catod) sau cu titan.


Originalul are baza din ematal, mai multe detalii referitoare la ematal:
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Daca varianta chinezeasca o fi 1:1 si daca dupa 2-3 zile se dovedeste a merita pastrat, atunci, pentru eliminarea dubiilor, gasesti deck-uri originale: http://www.intaste.de/deck-fuer-squape-reloaded.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Problema e ca nu numai puntea este din aluminiu, ci si chimney-ul.

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Chimney nu vad sa fie pe intaste, doar bazele.
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Povestea drobului de sare... Dacă tot l-ai comandat, așteaptă să vezi ce e cu el... Din cîte am citit, anodizarea asta, Ematal, are proprietăți deosebite. Și cea mai importantă, este un izolator electric foarte bun. Deci, dacă puntea aia, nu este izolator sau stratul de oxid cedează la strîngerea șuruburilor de fixare a rezistenței, atomizorul asta ar fi moartea acumulatorilor! Scurt-circuit perfect!
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De pe cloud9vaping.co.uk:

All About Anodising

Anodising isn't a paint, coating or applied substance of any sort, it's actually part of the metal. Anodising is acheived by submersing the aluminium part in an electrically charged acid bath which changes the chemical composition of the outer layer to a very hard, corrosion resistant and durable surface with different colors being achieved by adding a dye to the process.
Non anodised aluminum or nickel plated, chrome plated, powder coated or most other applied coatings are not suitable for prolonged usage in an e-liquid environment. E-liquids are mildly corrosive and plated, painted or bare/non-anodised aluminum will gradually dissolve into your e-liquid giving you a metallic taste as well as subjecting you to inhalation of the dissolved particulate matter.
The level of risk is not yet known because a clinical study on vaping e-liquid in these kinds of conditions has not been carried out. However, studies have shown that bare and plated aluminium are both unsuitable for use in cookware and food contact applications. Until more data is available, it is wise to stick to those materials that are known to be completely safe for food use including anodised aluminium, food-safe plastics and surgical stainless steel.
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Valahul scrie:Problema e ca nu numai puntea este din aluminiu, ci si chimney-ul.
Chimney nu vad sa fie pe intaste, doar bazele.

Corect! Mi-a scapat amanuntul asta. Pentru mine e pas.
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O recenzie facuta la Squape V1, versiunea anterioara, luata tot de pe focalecig.com, deci probabil acelasi producator ca si V2.

Review: Squape clone by Winsmoke (Focalecig.com)

Squape clone by Winsmoke

The Squape clone featured in this review is made by Winsmoke, and was purchased from Focalecig.com (sku 13165) as part of a Group Buy promotion for $14.90, with the regular sale price being $22.74. The original Squape rebuildable atomizer is made by the Switzerland based StattQualm, and retails for $150.00 USD.

Squape specs
Product Type: Rebuildable Atomizer
Brand:Winsmoke
Color: Silver
Material: Stainless Steel body, anodized aluminum chimney & deck, Glass tank
Connection: 510
Liquid capacity: 5.2mL
Diamter: 22.8mm
Weight: 96 grams

Parts: two extra thumb screws, 3 o rings, 1 allen wrench, silica wick

The Squape is a bottom coil rebuildable atomizer which is similar in function to the Kayfun RBA, yet very different in several ways. Unlike the Kayfun which receives its air from the body of the device, the Squape receives its air through two air holes on either side of the 510 connection, along with corresponding air flow channels on the bottom of the device that extend from the outer diameter of the base, up to the air holes found on the 510 connection.

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BUILD QUALITY

The Sqaupe clone by Winsmoke is very well made with a thick stainless steel body, inner glass tank, silver anodized aluminum chimney bell, olive green anodized and non conductive build deck, and drip tip. The threads on the base of the device are well machined, although there is a slight bit of resistance when screwing the main body on, and off the base. I believe that the “resistance” is intentional, so as to prevent accidentally unscrewing the main body from the base when removing the Squape from a PV/APV.

The catch screws on the base can be tightened/untightened by hand, or with a flat head screw driver. The wick channels are wide, and deep across the base of the device. The most delicate aspect of this appears to be the anodized aluminum chimney bell, which is thin, and light in terms of weight.

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There are some build details, and aesthetic differences between the Squape clone by Winsmoke, and the original Squape made by StattQualm. The original Squape has a PMMA tank section, while the Winsmoke clone features a glass tank. The aesthetic design proportions of the main stainless steel body also vary between the original, and clone.

The chamfered top on the clone is shorter, and flatter across the top, and the textured window section is also longer the original. In my personal opinion, due to the these slight aesthetic differences, the clone is more attractive than the original Squape by StattQualm.

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Building the Squape is as easy as rebuilding a Kayfun. The thumb screws are very easy to work with by hand, or a flathead screwdriver. The in photo demonstration below, I have built the coils using 30 gauge Kantal, with a 5/6 wrap on a rounded toothpick, which metered out to 1.3 ohms.

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PERFORMANCE

The most critical aspect of rebuilding the Squape, and having it perform properly, is wicking. The wick channels are very wide and deep, and require a fair amount of wicking material in order to prevent gurgling, and flooding. Using cotton as pictured in the photos below, I used enough cotton wick to not only fill the top wick channels of the device, but I also kept the cotton wicks long enough to extend half way down into the side juice channels, which contrary to early build directives for the Squape, is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY in order to prevent gurgling and flooding.

Laying the cotton wick across the top wick channels only is not sufficient to prevent the Squape from flooding. I typically do not use e liquids with a lower VG ratio of 50%, and with e liquids containing a VG ratio as high as 70%, I found that the Squape did gurgle if I did not extend my wicks at least half way into the side juice channels of the deck.

In wicking the Squape in the manner described above, I have not experienced a single dry hit.

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Filling the Squape is easy. Using the included allen wrench, install the chimney bell into the main body of the device. You can use either a needle nose bottle, or a syringe to fill the Squape by inserting the bottle tip, or needle between the chimney bell, and main body. The Squape has a 5ml e liquid capacity, and it will take a little practice to gauge when the Squape is full, since seeing into the space between the chimney, and body is not the easiest.

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OVERALL IMPRESSIONS

If you are a fan of either the Kayfun, or the Taifun GT, I see no reason why one would not enjoy the Squape as well. The Squape seems to combine the best aspects of both the Kayfun and Taifun GT, with its bottom coil/chimney design, and the ability to work on your build without having to dump your e liquid first. The Squape clone by Winsmoke also has the one thing that neither the Kayfun, or Taifun GT offer, and that is a glass tank.

In my opinion, the Squape offers a denser, fuller vape than the Kayfun, but I would say that the flavor production is about equal to the Kayfun. Any issues with internal shorts that were found in the earlier batches of the Squape clone appear to have been resolved within these recent batches. I definitely give the Squape clone by Winsmoke two thumbs up.

Imi place mult atomizorul, cred ca ne vom impaca bine...

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Mi-a venit si mie vineri Squape-ul de pe FT. Este varianta 1, fara air control ring. In aceasta seara am avut timp si de el. I-am pus rezistenta de 0,8 si l-am pus pe box si pe GP Paps.
Dupa cateva minute de vapat, primele impresii sunt:
- usor de servisat
- usor de montat si demontat
- poti usor sa modifici setarea fara sa pierzi lichidul
- daca umpli canalele cu vata, nu curge, nu galgaie, nu face zgomot
- aroma o reda foarte bine (mai ales pe la 25 W), mai bine decat Taifun GT
- vapori da ok
- pentru cei care sunt obisnuiti cu mult aer, nu o sa fie multumiti, dar eu sunt (mai folosesc si clearo :lol: mai ales acum pe box)
- arata bine, mai ales pe GP Paps, dupa cum se vede

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A aparut si pe fasttech. Doar ca tankul nu este sticla, ci pmma.
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Este enorm! 63mm fără muștiuc! Cu tot cu modul pe 18650 și kick ajunge la 200mm!
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